Home-reno lovers can rest easy: HGTV's Good Bones season 4 officially has a premiere date: May 14. The show featuring Karen E. Laine and Mina Starsiak-Hawk, the mother-daughter duo behind renovating team Two Chicks & A Hammer, is coming back with 15 new episodes. Just before the big 9 p.m. EST premiere, the stars sat down with House Beautiful to reveal a little of what you can expect from the season ahead, and—spoiler!—some of the issues they face are a total sh*tshow. Quite literally.
There's a special episode dedicated to Mina's "forever home."
Viewers will be treated to a special episode all about the home Mina and her husband, Steve, plan on raising their family in. The couple started working with heating/air conditioning company Trane, and their new home now features a whole-house humidifier and air cleaning system, along with an HVAC system that regulates temps in the garage. And that's only one of the perks of her house.
Mina worked on the floor plans of the home for years and has no plans to move ever again.
"I did everything that I wanted and everything that I could imagine that I could possibly might want," Mina said. "It's got every design element I've ever wanted to do." That includes things like having a dog bath in the garage with—wait for it—marble wall tiles. Lucky dogs!
The houses are still full of sh*t, human and animal, when they buy them.
When you find a house that they are considering flippable, there's truly no telling what they'll find inside. And this season is no different than the previous ones on that front. What do they find? You mean, besides animal remains? Poop. Literal, human and/or animal poop. EW.
"I like houses that have had a fire because it burns some of the poop, Karen said. "True story."
In fact, they can only think of ONE (!!!) house they've flipped that didn't have any feces in it—animal or human.
Mina's son Jack will make several appearances.
Mina gave birth to her first child in August 2018. After taking six weeks off, the new mama was back to work with her mama. Although Mina and her husband work with a few trusted babysitters, there are some days baby Jack just needs to be with Mina.
"He's so laid back—he's done two, maybe three, on-camera reveals for the show," Mina said. "He's a pro. He spent all day with me at a house while I was prepping it out for reveal, and I just laid him on a blanket in the middle of the floor of the living room, and he just hung out."
There's a new designer who's here to stay.
There will also be a new face this season. Season four marks the first season where Mina and Karen are using an in-house interior designer. "We've always worked with a designer to help have our ideas actually be executed, because we just don't have time for that," Mina said.
For previous seasons, there have been a few designers each season they are able to work with, but having one person with them full time is a complete game-charger.
And who exactly is this mystery person? Meet Michael Jeffery.
"He really knows our style," Mina said. "Whereas season three we had a couple different designers, so it's hard to get the vibe of someone's style. MJ has been there long enough where we can give him five words, and he can take it and run with it. He gets it."
Another pro of this pro is that he's already established connections with local vendors, making everyone's job easier. Go Hoosiers!
At the end of the day, it's still all about family.
Working every day with any family member can be stressful, let alone your mother (sorry, mom). However, this mother-daughter duo seems to have figured out how to get along—and move past any differences of opinion.
"I think the best part of this is, it's ride or die," Karen said. "We have to see each other every day, no matter how happy or annoyed we are about it. But there's this background security of it. This is my daughter, I am her mother, and that's never going to change."
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